Marvel continues to give female characters their own books. Captain Marvel, Ms. Marvel, She-Hulk, Black Widow, Elektra, Storm and now Jessica Drew, Spider-Woman/
Are you excited?
Check out these covers from Spider-Woman #1. First the regular cover by Greg Land. Oh, wait, you knew that Greg Land…
I’m not going to defend Greg Land, even though the picking at the cover is kind of reaching, to be frank.
However, I will say that if you aren’t familiar with Milo Manara, he is a legendary artist who, like me, built his work in erotic storytelling and art. His style and approach are different from the typical American approach, and here he’s shown beautiful technique and a superb grasp of anatomy. So she’s got a butt…and? Are we all six years old now?
One moment you’re criticising Land for anatomy, and I do agree, Silk needs to be a bit tightened up and not so wasp-waisted even when she’s turning her torso in place. But there’s absolutely nothing wrong with Manara’s cover. What exactly do you think a woman is going to look like who wears Spider-Woman’s costume? This is like that ‘controversy’ when one of Alex Ross’s painted covers was accused of having an erection, by people who clearly had never seen one before.
One gets the impression that if Manara had drawn her from the front, you’d be complaining about her breasts or the crotch or something else — she’s crouched and ready to strike, in a not uncommon pose for Spider-Woman. I’ve read Spider-Woman since her first series in the 70s. If I had a nickel for every time she was in that pose…or that Spider-Man were in that pose…!
It’s not like she’s got a cock flying at her face or that she’s licking her lips seductively. She’s an athletic woman crouched from crawling over the side of a building in a skintight costume.
This isn’t the first cover Manara has done for American comics either…
I don’t know, usually I am on the sidelines cheering ‘right on!’ for valid criticism of character portrayals and fighting against legitimate exploitation. But this? Yeah, I’d give any series a second thought if it had Greg Land doing the art, generally because I think it’s horseshit for an artist who literally traced his way through years of production to keep being used.
But please, leave Manara out of your vitriol. He’s a genuine artist. I understand if you don’t like erotic art or sensual figures, but he did what he was contracted to do and did it in his style. If you should want to blame anyone, blame Marvel editorial and management. Because as I noted in the other recent post, they’re being very exploitative in many other ways right now.
When people say they don’t want their kids ‘influenced’ by seeing homosexuality portrayed on tv, in books, in public, etc, what they’re really saying is ‘if my kid isn’t straight, I want them to be too uneducated to understand so they’ll be forced to stay in the closet and it doesn’t become my responsibility to face things that make me uncomfortable’
I didn’t even think about it since so many of you watch my appearances on Bad Fanfiction Theater and I Love Fanfiction and so you know very well how I feel about the over-hyped, over-marketed ‘popular fiction’ series and why, but I’ll just go over it quickly here because I don’t want people to think I’m singling them out or being unreasonable, I’d never want that.
Please don’t read further if you don’t want to know or don’t care about my distaste for Harry Potter. Please don’t reblog this. I’m writing it entirely to inform people who don’t know, so that my responses to certain things don’t seem to come out of nowhere. I’m not writing this for popularity or reblogs or responses, this is solely for my followers who may not know.
A GOOD WRITER will get INSPIRATION from a GOOD FIC.
A BAD WRITER will STEAL the observed fic and TWIST IT to his/her OWN STANDARDS.
Wrong. An ‘idea’ cannot be stolen or plagiarized, someone’s ‘story’ can be. For example, I’ve been reading a story called Snakebite, a Rise of the Guardians…
I agree with most everything Kleb’s said, and it also touches on something I’ve wanted to mention for some time.
In this day and age, just about every site out there has some option for users to leave reviews about anything and everything. It’s led to people thinking that their opinion constitutes a legitimate critique.
Whoever wrote the line of horseshit Kleb took the time to answer seems to present a similar viewpoint to a good many who are simply ignorant, not necessarily malicious, and who act according to that ignorance. But it is really a toxic thing to present, that any and every author should smile and accept everything anyone wants to say and pretend it’s all legitimate critique. It’s something that I’ve seen presented even in academia, and it really needs to stop.
As Kleb pointed out, not everyone is interested in critique. Some prefer to find their own way. Additionally, even if someone is able to critique effectively, it doesn’t mean they really ‘get’ what the creator is going for, and the work may not be intended for them in the first place. Just because a person makes a critique that may be intended constructively doesn’t actually mean the author can use it. And in the case of these sorts of critiques, that’s very important; if you have no concern if the author can use it, you’re probably doing it for the wrong reasons and it’s likely not a critique, it’s just your opinion.
Authors, whether paid for their work or working free, for whatever motivation, are not here to fulfill all or even any points of view.
Just something I think artists of all types need to hear right now, especially given some of the conversations I’ve had in the past week:
Art is not something that can be judged objectively, by its very nature. If one person doesn’t like a piece, that doesn’t make it universally bad; if another likes it, that doesn’t make it universally good. Art is something that is experienced from a person’s viewpoint and how that responds to the artist’s.
Every person tends to develop a personal style. Pretty much every artist has influences. This does not mean they are unoriginal, it just means that they have things that they like, which suit their expression. Do not confuse medium with style.
The quality of art is not determined by its photorealism, but by its expression. Someone who does a photorealistic painting is not better at art than someone who does a comic strip. I see people getting down because of this all the time, and it breaks my heart.
Keep doing art! Don’t let the people get you down who don’t understand anything or are taught something wrong. All artists have different styles, and it doesn’t make them better or worse, just different.
okay seriously if you’re in a relationship or even a friendship and you find yourself spending more time crying out of sadness or arguing with them, leave them. i don’t care if they’re a modern day aphrodite/adonis or a gift bestowed upon you by the gods. toxic people are dangerous and i highly advise cutting them out of your life and finding someone who makes you laugh until you snort your drink out your nose instead.
This is truth. And I am speaking as someone who has been in a relationship like this. Leave them. It may be hard, but you will find yourself in a far, far better place after you do.
“The very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in common. Instead of altering their views to fit the facts, they alter the facts to fit their views… which can be very uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that needs altering.”—– The Doctor (Tom Baker)